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Title: CM Closing (POSTPONED)
Post by: inkhana on October 10, 2017, 09:28:11 AM
Hi everyone:

After a couple of years of prayer and thought about it, I've come to the conclusion that it is time to shut CM down, remove the forums and move on.  I have a number of reasons for this, some spiritual, some emotional and some financial, but at the end of the day, it's no longer doing what I originally intended it to do.  Please understand that this was not a decision I arrived at lightly.  I don't know if it will come back at some time in the future in a different form, but I have some tentative plans for the leftover site pieces to be executed at a later date. 

You have until November 1 to find the other CM members on other websites so you can stay in contact.  This notice does not affect the CM Deviantart group.

Thanks everyone for the last few years. 
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Lizzie Grace the Geek on October 10, 2017, 09:47:13 AM
 :huhplz:

 :awkwardplz:

 :runcryplz: *runs to seek contact with other CM members in places other than... CM...*
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: cherryblossom on October 10, 2017, 10:20:03 AM
Noooo!
Well,  I'm going to make a new forum guess so don't tress!
And ink, if at all possible could I take over this one, instead of having to rebuild my own?
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: inkhana on October 10, 2017, 10:32:58 AM
And ink, if at all possible could I take over this one, instead of having to rebuild my own?

You probably would rather start your own and build it up the way you want.  Also, I have other plans for the webhosting, and you probably wouldn't want to take over the bill for it anyway. 
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: SuperStarlite on October 10, 2017, 10:38:09 AM
...huh. Well, I trust your decisions. It was nice to be here while I could.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Theomedes on October 10, 2017, 11:29:08 AM
I'm sorry to hear that, but... I want you to know this time hasn't been wasted. Through your work, you inspired a group of budding artists, people like Red and myself. We've grown. We've changed. We're not the same as we used to be (and thank God). You even provided an avenue for what became real-life friendships for some of us. So whatever your feelings about CM, just know that it hasn't been wasted.

And to think I've gone from writing things like The Messenger to contemplating actual mission work outside the country -- funny to think about. Maybe The Messenger will be that thing I write when I'm old and gray, and by then, it won't have nuthin' to do with faux-Illuminati conspiracies.

I want to keep up with you, Ink. I want to keep up with you, and also some others, so keep an eye out for the rest of my contact info.

One more thing... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYbYoaBrXpU >:()
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: cherryblossom on October 10, 2017, 11:52:27 AM
okay thanks any way ink
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: hitomi on October 10, 2017, 11:52:53 AM
Awww! This is unfortunate. But I understand when it's time to move on it's time. CM was and still is a good site! I've liked most of the members I've came cross. They were kind and sweet. Thought, it's sad it's closing I wish you all and Ink the best of luck!

  Also for you kidos to keep up and stay together. I have  Discord group! And I could make a Skype group too if anyone is interested in Skype than Discord.  Discord in my opinion is better than Skype and it's more forum based with many text chats and voice chats. It has video and screen sharing too. - shrugs- anyways here's my Discord group. Anyone is welcome to join!  https://discord.gg/mtuNHNT
 
If we want a Skype group. PM me and I will create one and send a link if I get enough people interested!
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: The ninja artist on October 10, 2017, 11:55:38 AM
Oh my goodness... I wasn't expecting this. I don't know what to say.

I just want put out that I understand. I can't be easy running this place, and I know you've been under a lot of stress lately.

But this news also makes me kinda sad. I remember when I first came here to CM. I've changed a lot since then. I can't believe how much I've grown, in maturity, spirituality, and art. And it's all thanks to you guys! If it weren't for this forum, I never would have met any of you. This website has done a lot for me, so I'll always be grateful for it. Thank you all so much for being such amazing people, and for creating such an amazing place. I'll never forget it.

Sorry for the sappiness. I just have a lot of emotion for this forum.  :finallyplz:
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: cherryblossom on October 10, 2017, 12:00:15 PM
yeah, even though I am sad that this place is going under, I still do understand, it must be very hard to keep up this forum, and from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much! Every one here, you are all like my family, and I love each and every one of you, you all helped me get through bad and good times, bless each and every one of you!
thank you INK, I will never forget you or the friends you have given to me through this forum.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: OceanWave on October 10, 2017, 01:59:53 PM
This honestly makes me sad lol I really understand the reasoning behind it.
I don't feel like I'm very close contact with anyone here.
But if anyone wants to keep in touch, shoot me a pm I guess, discord sounds neat
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: HopefulHotaru on October 10, 2017, 02:38:17 PM
*creeps from the shadows*
Long time no talk haha
Thanks to whoever anon'd me on tumblr to let me know about this
I completely understand the reasoning behind this and support your decision Ink. Its still kinda sad to see it go though, even if I haven't been active in the last year or so. This forum really pushed me to post my art more, to grow as an artist and a storyteller. I've met some of my closest friends here and had plenty of memories, good and bad haha - but mostly good. Thank you so  much for giving me that opportunity!
If anyone wants to stay in touch with me just let me know! I already am facebook friends with a ton of you (and I've even sent letters and packages!)
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: redfur-akamaru on October 10, 2017, 02:48:45 PM
Thank you for the time invested in this decision.

I must ask. Is there any way I can support you to make it possible to keep CM up? If it's a matter of anything I can do, including the messy work of adopting the site or assisting with financial support, please send me a message.

I've spent half my life here and CM means so much and I want others to have the same opportunities and support I received.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: KazeHaru_Hime on October 10, 2017, 03:17:21 PM
*creeps out of the shadows too* Wow. So this joint's finally shutting down, huh? I know I don't come on here anymore often but I want to say thank you for everything you've done, Ink. Through the good, through the bad, you ran this site and you did it pretty dern well. I'm glad for the time you did run the site because it enabled me to meet many friends, real ones who I've actually met. Thank you for the time you put into this site and I wish you the best of luck on your journey. Though I may not have anything to contribute to the site I have to echo Red's sentiments... If upkeep was ever possible, it sure would be nice to still have this place around so other people can connect and inspire each other like me and my friends did in the olden days. But whatever you choose I respect your decision, Ink. God bless you and your family.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: swordofpower on October 10, 2017, 03:25:16 PM
Thank you Ink for the all the work you've put into CM, I hope that God leads you to abundant blessings because of your obedience. Love you,
~Sword
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: yorokobigirl123 on October 10, 2017, 03:36:56 PM
This is such sad news, but I understand. Iím slowly working on helping ink out with a cm discord group of anyone is interested in being a part of that. Also, you can find me on tumblr, instagram, and Twitter (my username all three places is either jessmkarts or jessmkart) Andy have a facebook too. Pm me if you wanna connect there. On discord Iím jessmk93. Love you all and Iím so glad I had the time here that I did. I will miss it.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: D-Kitsune on October 10, 2017, 03:48:48 PM
Wow. I honestly don't know how to respond to this.

Um...first of all, I want to thank you, Ink, for creating CM in the first place, and to thank all the lovely people here. Christian Manga has become kind of my second home on the interwebs. You folks helped me through some pretty hard times, helped me to grow both artistically and spiritually, become more confident in my art, get excited about my writing again...and I think I've made some of my best friends here.

Thank you to Ink for doing all that you've done to make this a safe place, a place that we could all feel at home in. I'm very sorry to see it go, but I understand you have your reasons.

If anyone wants to keep in contact with me, I have a

DevientArt: https://donnadarling1412.deviantart.com/ (https://donnadarling1412.deviantart.com/)
Twitter: https://twitter.com/_DonnaDarling (https://twitter.com/_DonnaDarling)
Wattpad: https://www.wattpad.com/user/DonnaDarling1412 (https://www.wattpad.com/user/DonnaDarling1412)
Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/61044560-donna (https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/61044560-donna)

And I can PM you my email if necessary. I may get a Discord and maybe (maybe) a Tumblr and Facebook eventually too.

I'll miss you guys. You all did a lot to shape me and make me who I am today. I'll be keeping you all in my prayers.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Diamond Fusion on October 10, 2017, 03:53:31 PM
*also comes out of the woodworks*

I'm gonna echo everyone else here, and say that I understand and respect your decisions Ink!

But I'm also gonna be extremely sad that CM is shutting down. I've met all my closest friends right here, and on the CM Chatroom back when it was still up and running. This website holds a lot of memories for me, and inspired me to create stories of my own...stories I'm still working on now in fact. It helped me grow an an artist, a writer, and as a person. God was so good and gracious to lead me to this site, and I just want you to know Ink, that I wouldn't be where I am now without CM. Thank you for all that you've done Ink! If there's any way to possible way to save CM, I would try to help however I can. But if not, I won't argue.

Thank you again, and God bless~
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: sarah_yt on October 10, 2017, 03:59:31 PM
I don't have much to add, but to echo everyone's thanks for your efforts and time, and for the other mods too (Cal, MelMak).

I'm mainly active on DeviantArt now (https://sarahyt.deviantart.com/). Thankfully a lot of CMers past and present are on there so we can keep in contact that way :)

PS: Just thinking... Ink, have you sent a message to Foxie? I'm sure she would be interested in knowing CM was about to close.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Theomedes on October 10, 2017, 04:52:50 PM
YES. Tell Sparkle Foxie, because I NEED to stay in touch with her. ("Need" in the sense of "want," but still...)
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Blueeyedswordmaiden on October 10, 2017, 05:39:45 PM
I feel like I should really say something because this website has literally changed my life. In so many different sorts of ways.

I would not be who I am today without the experiences this singular site afforded me. I am grateful even if I am no longer present.

Thank you, Ink. And I wish you the best. Just simply the best in everything you have going forward. Planned or otherwise.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Lizzie Grace the Geek on October 10, 2017, 08:05:24 PM
Thanks, CM admins, moderators, etc., for everything!

This is the best online group I've joined. I've made a lot of online buddies (and how cool would it be to meet them IRL!). This site also motivated me to keep working at art, and inspired me to pray for and care for people I'll probably never see face-to-face, but are still my bros and sisses in Christ! :D

It felt great knowing that there was a safe place to post art, hosted by people who strived to honor Christ.

Thanks again, everyone! *big bro hugs to everyone*
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Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: The Melody Maker on October 10, 2017, 10:39:58 PM
Just so you guys know, to my understanding Ink is not completely doing away with ChristianManga.com as a website.  She's simply closing down and removing the forum (and anything attached to it like the art gallery).  But the projects hosted on the site will remain, and I suspect that in place of the forum there will instead be a simple anchor page linking to those projects -- as there once was in earlier versions of the site.

So we'll still be here, even if there isn't as much interactive functionality.  Ink will still have Game Plan and Steelblood.  I'll still have The Traveller's Guide and Private Property.  We'll still have Special Delivery.  And at least a few other projects will still be here.

So even though the forums are getting shut down, the site will still be here for hosting projects intended for bringing honor and glory to our Lord Jesus Christ, for as long as He wills it so. :)


If you guys really want an alternate forum to post on, though, I'd like to recommend TheologyWeb (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/).  I'm a moderator there, and Mossy is one of the co-owners.  There's also an Art Gallery (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/forumdisplay.php?33-Art-Gallery) sub-forum where you guys could share your art if you want to.  Just an idea for any of you who still want to keep in contact with each other. ^_^
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Lizzie Grace the Geek on October 10, 2017, 10:44:41 PM
So the art folders and profiles will still be here, we just won't be able to make threads like this?
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: The Melody Maker on October 10, 2017, 10:49:49 PM
No, the art gallery is integrated into the forums so that's probably going to go too, sadly. :(  (Edited my above post to reflect that.)
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Lizzie Grace the Geek on October 10, 2017, 11:03:21 PM
Rats.

Thanks, Melmak! :)
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: KittyMarie on October 11, 2017, 11:41:58 AM
So long forums~

Comming on to thank Ink, like everyone else, for what she and the others have done to create and maintain CM.

So, thank you. I'm curious to see what sort of website you do turn CM into :)
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: miku hatsune on October 11, 2017, 01:30:23 PM
its so sad!!!!! I wish CM would go on forever!! But alas all good tings come to an end!!
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: cherryblossom on October 11, 2017, 02:49:56 PM
Tings Miku XDDDDDDDD
THINGS
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: miku hatsune on October 11, 2017, 05:29:07 PM
WHATEVER CHERRY!!! sorry about my typo guys!
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Theomedes on October 11, 2017, 07:22:24 PM
No need to apologize. Way I see it, we can make as many tupos as we want, 'cause it'll all be gone anyway. We could have, like, a... CM End of the Woeld Party of sorts.

 :dignitylaughplz: :dignitylaughplz: :dignitylaughplz:

I'm gonna miss these onion smileys. Not the others, just these.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Foreign Grid on October 11, 2017, 07:26:31 PM
*im cursed*

This is the second forum I've seen shut down in the past year =v=

jk about the cursed part

But since I really need to go back and study Ill make a mini-tribute
I really enjoyed CM and the community here and all of you guys
For once I could be unafraid of being known as a Christian (since in the offline world pagans doth roam and on most  other sites there is a plentiful abundance of SJW) Also, thank you, everyone, for tolerating me (it's no easy feat uvub)

And although Ill probably be inactive for a longer time, ninja and kitsy and yoro and Ihas know my email so Ill just pester them when I plan on making a come back.

Also Lizzie has my Insta

And a bunch of you have my DA

...

So ye

 :bishieplz:
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Foreign Grid on October 11, 2017, 07:27:03 PM
No need to apologize. Way I see it, we can make as many tupos as we want, 'cause it'll all be gone anyway. We could have, like, a... CM End of the Woeld Party of sorts.

 :dignitylaughplz: :dignitylaughplz: :dignitylaughplz:

I'm gonna miss these onion smileys. Not the others, just these.

This is the epitome of forum Nihilism Theomedes...

Anarchy will reign...
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Theomedes on October 11, 2017, 07:47:44 PM
Anarchy will reign
Well, you're talking to a Christian anarchist, so I have no objection to that. :D

I really enjoyed CM and the community here and all of you guys. For once I could be unafraid of being known as a Christian (since in the offline world pagans doth roam and on most other sites there is a plentiful abundance of SJW)...
But you know what's funny? Though it took a long time, I stopped being scared of pagans and SJWs (even though I have little in common with either). You know what scares me more, in the here and now where I live? Conservative Christians -- the ones going on about postmodernity/moral relativism when they themselves are deeply postmodern and relativistic in ways they don't even recognize. Not those people over there, but my people over here. They scare me, and at times, I'm not sure they won't someday cast me into "outer darkness."

But anywho, I mustn't be such a downer.

 :awwwplz:

(^ Being not a downer.)
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: D-Kitsune on October 11, 2017, 08:16:39 PM
*loots a convenience store for twinkies* IT'S OVER ANYWAY, THESE TWINKIES WILL BE DELETED IN A MONTH NO ONE CARES!!!!

I would NOT actually do that if the world was ending fyi.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Theomedes on October 11, 2017, 08:38:07 PM
*loots a convenience store for twinkies* IT'S OVER ANYWAY, THESE TWINKIES WILL BE DELETED IN A MONTH NO ONE CARES!!!!

I would NOT actually do that if the world was ending fyi.
Looting convenience stores, nah. But we might be listening to this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGjab76TJ3c)
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Foreign Grid on October 11, 2017, 09:12:03 PM

But you know what's funny? Though it took a long time, I stopped being scared of pagans and SJWs (even though I have little in common with either). You know what scares me more, in the here and now where I live? Conservative Christians -- the ones going on about postmodernity/moral relativism when they themselves are deeply postmodern and relativistic in ways they don't even recognize. Not those people over there, but my people over here. They scare me, and at times, I'm not sure they won't someday cast me into "outer darkness."

But anywho, I mustn't be such a downer.

 :awwwplz:

(^ Being not a downer.)

Well yeah I mean now they're just fun to mess with and observe,,, I take screenshots every time this one pagan guy I know says something like "Put a raw chicken strip in their pocket" when counseling someone on taking revenge. Or when they like... seal spirits or something idk


Philosophy does seem to do that to ya,, cuz you see stuff in a clearer light (or if you're like me it just excites you to no end) Either way you're cool bro XD
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: calbhach on October 11, 2017, 09:26:59 PM
Please look back on what the OP said: ď I have a number of reasons for this, some spiritual, some emotional and some financial, but at the end of the day, it's no longer doing what I originally intended it to do.Ē

What I find the most discouraging about this decision is this: There has rarely ever has been any support, whether financially or emotionally for something that, in the end, has gone down the tubes from her original purpose. .

I want to bring this to everyoneís attention, because I feel it was totally missed or ignored. I say this because Inkís put a ton of time and hard work into this place. Sheís tried to make it flourish into a place where Christian artists and mangaka would be able to come and grow, spiritually and artistically. Some people have come here and done just that, yes, but the majority of the forum has been used for things other than her original plan. Whether itís just chatting, goofing off, playing games, etc, I feel like the people of CM, while being respectful to administration in words, have done this: They havenít stayed on topic with the mission statement. ďThe focus of our forum is to train young artists and writers the best we can to make the most of their God-given abilities for His glory.Ē

Administration can only lock things down so tightly on what can and canít be said and done before people simply stop having involvement. This means letting people do, for the most part, what they want to do. As a result, the forum has gone the way of most forums; very little activity, and what activity is there is mostly frivolous. Ink has to pay bills for CM, but the members for CM, by and large, take that for granted, at least until it was brought to their attention in the OP. Most of us donít think about the bills when we play around on a forum, weíre just here to have a good time.

In the end, though, the art aspect of CM is really a minor part, and the only real building of the spirit goes on in the prayer threads, which is usually through prayer, but no serious discussion. People give up on their manga projects before they even really start (sadly, myself included). Most people donít want to practice, only doodling every now and then, and producing largely unfinished works. No one takes that next step, leaping into vast improvement, or at least doing what it takes to reach that point and making the very core of CMís purpose glow with even minor success. Sadly, CM doesnít really have any success stories to make it feel like the time, money and physical/emotional effort was well-spent.

In less than 48 hours, this thread has had more activity than almost any other thread in the same amount of time. At the time that I write this, this thread has been read 445 times. 36 posts. 3 pages of posts. Other threads, where people ask for opinions, critique or anything else...well, some of them have very few to no replies at all (no complaints about my own thread, itís just a sad fact of the matter at this point). Lots of work on art + no encouragement or critique = loss in motivation. No one wants to do something for no one to look at it, especially if theyíre trying hard to improve. Itís a cycle. Artists make art. Other artists talk about the art (through critique, redlining, etc). Artists learn from the talk, and then make more art. The cycle starts anew, more people learn and more people join in to help those who can learn from them. Whatís sad is that the artists who feel snubbed also donít want to critique or chat about another personís art, and thatís the part that gets spread most...a lack of communication, and feeling inferior. Iím sure some artists here, at some point, have felt that way. I know I have. And seeing things like that, from an administrative point of view, is really disheartening.

So in the end, it comes down to this. CMís not what it should be...and for that, itís best to say adios for now. :) Sorry if any feelings were hurt...like I said, itís just a sad fact of the way things are. Bye bye, everyone. I wish you all the best!
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Theomedes on October 11, 2017, 09:29:41 PM
@ForeignGrid
Well, I'm no philosopher, Foreign Grid. Philosophy means "love of wisdom," but I ain't no lover of wisdom. I rather hate it (hence the verse in my signature). The pagan "HŠvamŠl" (Words of the High One) says something similar: "Moderately wise a man should be, not too crafty or clever; a learned man's heart whose learning is deep seldom sings with joy."

So in my opinion, it's best to not be too wise, but don't be too foolish either -- that's even worse.

@calbach
I realize this, yes -- but perhaps the next version of CM will be more conducive to the original vision. Or maybe the vision itself will be amended. (And I don't disagree with her decision. If the forum, or the forum culture, being a user-directed enterprise, is at odds with what she wants to accomplish, then I fully support her decision.)

All that aside, I'm grateful for the good that came out of the website and this forum. Artistically, I've learned more from Ink than I have from anyone else, period (and not by way of formal instruction, just by emulation of her example). That's all I need to say, really. Any more and I'd be rambling, and I don't wish to ramble.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Lizzie Grace the Geek on October 11, 2017, 09:47:07 PM
Please look back on what the OP said: ď I have a number of reasons for this, some spiritual, some emotional and some financial, but at the end of the day, it's no longer doing what I originally intended it to do.Ē

What I find the most discouraging about this decision is this: There has rarely ever has been any support, whether financially or emotionally for something that, in the end, has gone down the tubes from her original purpose. .

I want to bring this to everyoneís attention, because I feel it was totally missed or ignored. I say this because Inkís put a ton of time and hard work into this place. Sheís tried to make it flourish into a place where Christian artists and mangaka would be able to come and grow, spiritually and artistically. Some people have come here and done just that, yes, but the majority of the forum has been used for things other than her original plan. Whether itís just chatting, goofing off, playing games, etc, I feel like the people of CM, while being respectful to administration in words, have done this: They havenít stayed on topic with the mission statement. ďThe focus of our forum is to train young artists and writers the best we can to make the most of their God-given abilities for His glory.Ē

Administration can only lock things down so tightly on what can and canít be said and done before people simply stop having involvement. This means letting people do, for the most part, what they want to do. As a result, the forum has gone the way of most forums; very little activity, and what activity is there is mostly frivolous. Ink has to pay bills for CM, but the members for CM, by and large, take that for granted, at least until it was brought to their attention in the OP. Most of us donít think about the bills when we play around on a forum, weíre just here to have a good time.

In the end, though, the art aspect of CM is really a minor part, and the only real building of the spirit goes on in the prayer threads, which is usually through prayer, but no serious discussion. People give up on their manga projects before they even really start (sadly, myself included). Most people donít want to practice, only doodling every now and then, and producing largely unfinished works. No one takes that next step, leaping into vast improvement, or at least doing what it takes to reach that point and making the very core of CMís purpose glow with even minor success. Sadly, CM doesnít really have any success stories to make it feel like the time, money and physical/emotional effort was well-spent.

In less than 48 hours, this thread has had more activity than almost any other thread in the same amount of time. At the time that I write this, this thread has been read 445 times. 36 posts. 3 pages of posts. Other threads, where people ask for opinions, critique or anything else...well, some of them have very few to no replies at all (no complaints about my own thread, itís just a sad fact of the matter at this point). Lots of work on art + no encouragement or critique = loss in motivation. No one wants to do something for no one to look at it, especially if theyíre trying hard to improve. Itís a cycle. Artists make art. Other artists talk about the art (through critique, redlining, etc). Artists learn from the talk, and then make more art. The cycle starts anew, more people learn and more people join in to help those who can learn from them. Whatís sad is that the artists who feel snubbed also donít want to critique or chat about another personís art, and thatís the part that gets spread most...a lack of communication, and feeling inferior. Iím sure some artists here, at some point, have felt that way. I know I have. And seeing things like that, from an administrative point of view, is really disheartening.

So in the end, it comes down to this. CMís not what it should be...and for that, itís best to say adios for now. :) Sorry if any feelings were hurt...like I said, itís just a sad fact of the way things are. Bye bye, everyone. I wish you all the best!

Ink and Cal, I think, personally for me, your mission was accomplished. I've grown spiritually and artistically.

Like I said, by the "Prayer, Praise, Problems" board, I felt challenged to pray for people I'll probably never meet. And a lot of CMers did post some thought-provoking posts.

Also, I've learned a lot of good art techniques and advice from CM buds that I couldn't even find in my numerous how-to-draw books! :D

Please know that none of your efforts were in vain. Many people, including myself, have been richly blessed!!! :)
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: D-Kitsune on October 11, 2017, 09:56:04 PM
Calbach makes a good point. I feel ashamed that I wasn't more supportive/helpful to the people here.

I guess it was because I don't consider myself good enough at the things I do (writing/drawing/following Jesus) to give anyone good advice. But I could have been way more supportive of Inkhanah, MelMak, and Calbach. You guys put so much into this forum...

If it is any consolation, I really do feel like this forum helped me in the ways it was built too. A lot of it was happening behind the scenes in PMs, but it was happening. I've changed so much thanks to you guys. I'm sorry I never gave back as I should have. :(
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Foreign Grid on October 11, 2017, 10:05:03 PM
@theo
I think you have a point: One shouldn't be too caught up in learning or in themselves and their bias.

Similarily, it's the geniuses of the world that have done and can do the most damage.

But I have seen educated and intellectually genius men's hearts sing with joy, to sing with the joy of freedom, purpose, and humility. All education is vanity if it has no purpose, like a dusty book on the wall. But when it is utilized for sanctity, for humility, for fortitude, for a purpose other than our own egos, sin, and immediate pleasure, only then is it worthwhile. The more you know, the more you realize you don't know, and the more you appreciate the simple flowers of life that don't need to know to be beautiful and true. Sometimes its the most wonderful things that are the most simple, and yet the hardest to attain intellectually for most, especially in a world riddled with error. If we shirk wisdom we will also shirk beauty.

It's like the age-old riddle of whether truth is a wonderful or perilous thing. It's a puzzle worth puzzling or a piece worth painting. You just might find something beautiful at the end.

Anyways, I know I'm not going to convince you here, but I wanted to give a reason for my initial claim~

@Calbhach
Yes I see ;-; Sorry it came to that
I think, as advice for the future forum, it might be that people can be a bit too shy about what goes inside them for the public arena, also our outreach to non-Christians is pretty low which does present a problem. In a past forum I found that the most outbursts from people regarding spiritual things would happen when a lukewarm Christian would come in and ask questions about the faith that they were doubting, or simply just did not know about. Or maybe a returning Christian (previously atheist) would come and ask questions(like "will God take me back?"), and regardless of our denominations we would all try to help them as best we could. I think the main troublesome part is that we're kinda isolated. Not many atheists come to challenge us, or even pagans. And I think if that happens, it will increase our solidarity and will allow us to talk about random church things and problems more.
Of course, this is just a suggestion from experience.

As to the art problem, I think it's also that people are too shy to critique simply because the playing field isn't set up yet. At that previous forum I was talking about there also used to be an art forum with INCREDIBLE participation. It was epic. And I think the main thing that kept it going was that there were "The Art Sempais" Oh yes these glorious Deviant Arters who had come to rest upon the threshold of that thread. Their threads and art comics would have 100+ pages of adoring comments and questions asking for sdvice. Everyone wanted to be like them. So everyone practiced their butts off. And if they (the art sempais) so happened to merely give you a "wow, good work peon!" It was like the heavens opened and you got a new sense of purpose and meaning in life. Critique was widely accepted because of this, and mini art groups sorta formed that would comment and help other artists. Sadly it died when the forum format updated and everyone was like "I cant deal with this anymore" but yeah. We need art sempais.

Im gonna fail this test guys.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Theomedes on October 11, 2017, 10:28:51 PM
@ForeignGrid
There's something Lewis said: "The pursuit of knowledge is a kind of madness." Or was it Chesterton? Either one could have said it. I know for sure that Chesterton said it's better to be a poet than a logician, because only logicians try to cram the great big universe into their teeny little brains -- so oddly enough, the poets are more logical.

It's not so much a "hatred," per se, of wisdom (even though I speak that way) as it is a recognition of one's intellectual limits/a return to sanity. But I think you could make a case for actually hating wisdom, as long as you hate folly even more. Then again, there was a great man named Erasmus who wrote an entire treatise called In Praise of Folly, and it's hard to disagree with him. In the end, it's neither wisdom nor folly that I love. It's anti-wisdom. (Yeah, I'm a real philosopher 'cause I made up a category -- woohoo!)
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Foreign Grid on October 11, 2017, 11:28:02 PM
Ooooh yes 83

Praise of Folly is on my radar~

It would be hard to condense my position, but let's just say my favorite books are Lord of the Rings and Utopia by Thomas More. A serious fine-tuned high fiction and a short slapped together political satire that pokes fun at the idea that man thinks he can create a utopian state. So I think we agree more than disagree, but our conclusions diverge just a smidge.

I would agree with him (lewis or chesterton) that it is a kind of madness, but only if it's unchecked and ordered towards pride or to justify other vices (or even a certain hopelessness). After all, some people have 'read themselves to Christ' so I wouldn't say it's a negative thing all the time. I would agree with you that there are intellectual limits though, and that to pretend they don't exist are the height of folly. Somethings are just too big to put into words or even comprehend much less understand. But, as Socrates says, wouldn't it be true wisdom (or at least the first step to it) to acknowledge that you don't and will never 'know it all'? (however, that isn't to say that there is no truth like the Sophists say)
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Theomedes on October 11, 2017, 11:47:14 PM
@Foreign Grid
I don't know that we really disagree, because I don't find anything you've said to be objectionable. I've just put emphasis on one thing, while you've put emphasis on another.

Speaking of Tolkien... I'm really coming to love Tolkien, even more than I did in high school. If you have time, check this out. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX1IeD8mbiI) You can listen while doing art or something. I'm sharing this with as many Tolkien nuts as I can (that's how Tolkien regarded his fans, as nuts). There are other Tolkien things I can show you, if you want.

Utopia -- a play on words. Eu-topia (good place) and ou-topia (no place). A good place that doesn't exist, which you no doubt already knew. I remember enjoying More's work. I enjoyed Voltaire a little more, mainly because of Pangloss in Candide. Pangloss (All-Talk) seems like a good example of what to avoid intellectually.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: yorokobigirl123 on October 12, 2017, 01:49:31 PM
Yea he  completely understand the reasoning behind it Cal. I have witnessed many people grow here, but as for myself I have only a short period of time of growth, although I wouldnít be where Iím at today without CM, after a while I did begin to feel inadequate seeing so many people improve fast and me getting stuck, itís pretty discouraging. Donít think thatís the forumís fault necessarily but I definitely could have used a lot more encouragement, help and critique in the last couple of years and itís kida why I partially disappeared from here tbh and havenít posted much art here. Itís also the reason I stopped streaming or visiting other peopleís streams.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: D-Kitsune on October 12, 2017, 02:04:30 PM
@Yoro ;~; *hug*
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: cherryblossom on October 12, 2017, 02:44:27 PM
Aw yoro >~< I love you and your art! So what if people are improving, just try hard and you get there in your own time!
And at your own pace! Your an amazing artist! Never give up.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Foreign Grid on October 12, 2017, 05:23:48 PM
@Foreign Grid
I don't know that we really disagree, because I don't find anything you've said to be objectionable. I've just put emphasis on one thing, while you've put emphasis on another.

Speaking of Tolkien... I'm really coming to love Tolkien, even more than I did in high school. If you have time, check this out. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX1IeD8mbiI) You can listen while doing art or something. I'm sharing this with as many Tolkien nuts as I can (that's how Tolkien regarded his fans, as nuts). There are other Tolkien things I can show you, if you want.

Utopia -- a play on words. Eu-topia (good place) and ou-topia (no place). A good place that doesn't exist, which you no doubt already knew. I remember enjoying More's work. I enjoyed Voltaire a little more, mainly because of Pangloss in Candide. Pangloss (All-Talk) seems like a good example of what to avoid intellectually.

Sometimes this happens =v=

Ooooo yes~ I listened to that book last year. Good choice! (Ill have to listen to it again though now that you remind me of it ^^) A few other Cmers might have fond/not so fond memories of me commenting on that book while I was listening to it in a group chat (sorry guys)

Lol we are Nuts XD

Ill have to read Voltaire o3o Never got around to him~

Thanks a bunch though for the recommendations!
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: goldenspines on October 13, 2017, 12:29:37 AM
Thank you, Ink, for all the patience and long suffering you've had over the years. It's not easy to run a big project like this, especially when it's not quite going the way you envisioned it.
That being said, it makes me encouraged that you do still have plans for the site and are not just dropping it all together, which can be a tempting thing to do. After going through the experiences of forums losing their purpose and dying out, I know that it's quite hard to not just say "forget it." and drop everything.

Not that I have much room to talk, to be perfectly honest, as I've never been around. I'm pretty sure most people here are probably thinking, "Who the heck is this person talking like they know stuff?"
Or not, who knows. ^_^ I've expressed it before, and I'll stand by it, CM is full of some of the most accepting and sweetest people I've ever seen grace an internet forum. That is definitely thanks to too many people to name, but it did start with the supportive and upbeat environment Ink created here.

Though, regardless of whether it accomplished the purpose you intended it for originally, God has definitely blessed this site and forum and I pray He will continue to bless you all wherever He leads you.

Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight. -Proverbs 3:5-6
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: OceanWave on October 13, 2017, 01:04:12 AM
Who could forget goldy, the human ray of sunshine? I remember you best from caa tbh
I'd like to apologize for not really offering anything to the site myself I don't really have any of the things I need to be posting art but the big thing is I'm very lazy. I just offered to the goof off crowd, but this place has been a great experience and everyone here always gives support where it's due. I do think we maybe leaned a little too nice with art sometimes? As in very little criticism period, but I'm callin the kettle black.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: wolfprensess on October 13, 2017, 03:41:54 AM
Hi ya'll!
Man... so nostalgic to see all us old peeps back on the forum. I've been thinking some thoughts and would like to properly say farewell to the source of the most growth in my life. I want to preface by saying that I completely understand and respect the decision to close down the forum aspect of CM - it's a huge responsibility and financial drain. Plus, now that there are so many ways of keeping in touch outside of CM forums, maybe it's not really necessary anymore. But after reading Calbach's post in particular, I want to encourage you that it hasn't all been in vain.

I want to bring this to everyoneís attention, because I feel it was totally missed or ignored. I say this because Inkís put a ton of time and hard work into this place. Sheís tried to make it flourish into a place where Christian artists and mangaka would be able to come and grow, spiritually and artistically. Some people have come here and done just that, yes, but the majority of the forum has been used for things other than her original plan. Whether itís just chatting, goofing off, playing games, etc, I feel like the people of CM, while being respectful to administration in words, have done this: They havenít stayed on topic with the mission statement. ďThe focus of our forum is to train young artists and writers the best we can to make the most of their God-given abilities for His glory.Ē

 Sadly, CM doesnít really have any success stories to make it feel like the time, money and physical/emotional effort was well-spent.

I haven't been around CM in a long time, but when I was still active, you're right. We were a bunch of teenagers and few of us had the commitment, confidence or maturity to create full comics. We're still growing. (tho some of us /did/ use CM to jumpstart creating full comics *looks pointedly towards Red*)

God worked mightily through CM, but maybe not in the way you wanted to see Him working. Again, I haven't been around the last couple years or so, so I'm not sure how the current community functions. Even still, the perspective you've shared just now seems a bit harsh to members and hardly holistic.

You said there were no success stories from CM. Well, it's success story time. Though perhaps not exactly the kind of success you intended.   

In 2011, when I was 14 years old, CM was the first online community that I  joined. I grew up in abject poverty, living in a motorhome with a leaking roof, not even knowing what a toaster was. When it got really bad, my mom would tell me that she didn't know if we'd have enough food to eat next week. I was raised as an only child, homeschooled in an incredibly unhealthy, though Christian, family environment. Before I joined CM, my closest friends were my dogs. I was incredibly depressed and bitter to the point of rejecting God's love entirely. My mental state manifested in an eating disorder. I wanted to die. I couldn't even bear to have people touching me. I was /messed up/, man.  Not the kind of healthy person you'd wanna be friends with.

But in the CM chatroom... my voice was heard and valued in a way I had never experienced before. Maybe it was just games and goofing off to you guys. I was 14. But to me... it gave me a sliver of hope. That sliver grew bigger and bigger as I began to form relationships - especially with Red. I became slowly but surely less bitter towards God - maybe it was ok to be alive after all, I thought. I made so many friendships here that helped me grow and look towards God rather than the more comfortable pit of apathy and depression that I was so used to. I still pray for you guys.

Not only did I begin to develop real, deep relationships, but I began to draw. Art was hard. I learned how to fail - possibly the most important lesson I have ever learned in my life. I learned how to take criticism from someone besides my parents. And I got to see my art improve after failure and critique. This is the real power of humility. All humans are made in the image of God, who we know well is a Creator. As I engaged more and more with my creativity in His likeness, I began to feel more and more human.

As I felt more motivated to create and learned how to form other human friendships, I grew more motivated to learn Japanese. I really wanted to understand anime and all the vocaloid music I was into.

At 16, I graduated high school. (because homeschooled.) Red and I met in real life for the first time when she flew out to visit me and my parents in California for a couple weeks. It was a terrifying, surreal experience and it was amazing. this was HUGE. AND SOMEHOW SHE STILL LIKED ME EVEN AFTER SHE MET ME IRL. like whaaaaaaaat. A year later, I flew to visit her and her family in New Hampshire for a few weeks. It was amazing, and I was so confused but glad to witness the way her family worked in contrast to mine.

A couple months after I returned to CA from staying with Red... My family and I lost our home and our job within the same week. We lost the dogs too - the only thing that had kept me sane. We stayed in a little Motel 6 for a few weeks until we could figure out where to go. My parents couldn't afford to take care of me any longer. I was 17. They separated soon after and are still separated to this day.

Red's family offered to take me in and I fly back to New Hampshire to live with them for a year before going to university. I never expected to go to university - I had no money to do so. But God does miraculous things, and through some strange circumstances, I ended up going to the same university as Red. (since then I've been totally inactive on CM because... well... college life is rough, man. good, but rough.)

Now, I'm in my junior year as an honors student and a leader. God has surrounded me with an incredible and supportive community here and I find myself constantly in the hard yet worthy process of learning to love people and God well.

Remember how I said I was studying Japanese? Well... after I entered college, I started to connect with the Japanese Christian community here. I go to a Japanese church and am the president of the Japanese culture and ministry club (and also teach beginner Japanese there). I've gotten to witness several of my Japanese friends become Christians here and see how God is working through them and in them. Their thirst to know and love God more inspires and encourages me so much.

God even gave me the opportunity to go to Japan for free this summer for 2 and a half months to teach English for an internship. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done... but oh, oh so worth it. I've been able to share the gospel and answer questions in Japanese, and am daily studying to attain a level of fluency where I can live, work, and minister in Japan after graduation.

Guys. I don't know if I would be alive without CM.
I would not have learned the confidence or humility necessary to be where I am today without the lessons I learned here at CM.
I would not be able to love God  or myself as His creation in the way that I do without the hope that you all provided me.
I wouldn't have had a home.
I wouldn't have attended university at all.
I wouldn't have met the dear friends I have here, or connected with my Japanese church.
I wouldn't have gone to Japan and realized God's calling to me as a missionary.
I wouldn't be able to share the Gospel with my Japanese friends.
I wouldn't be able to "make the most of (my) God-given abilities for His glory.Ē
I wouldn't be able to take my experiences and use them to tell vivid stories through art and writing.

CM is the source of so much good in my life and I know only God could have come up with such a crazy plan to use a forum of otaku(sorry guys, but let's be real)to draw me to Him.

This is just my story, but I know several other such stories.
I tell you all this not to discourage the closing of CM... but to encourage you. It was worth the time, effort and money. I know that God sees what you've done through CM and worked through your efforts even if they didn't seem very rewarding at the time.

Well done, good and faithful servants, stewards of what God gave you. You have served your younger brothers and sisters in Christ well. Please don't ever look back on this as a waste, or as a community that was only "just chatting, goofing off" etc.

If anyone wants to stay in touch:
Tumblr and Instagram - wolfiegakakitai
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Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: sarah_yt on October 13, 2017, 04:41:32 AM
Thank you for sharing your story, Wolfie *hugs* I'm so glad you're doing so well and amazed at how far God has brought you!
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Theomedes on October 13, 2017, 11:00:11 AM
@Wolfie
You have an incredible story -- and one of the most incredible things is how Red's family grafted you onto theirs. We, and I speak generally, so underestimate the value of friendship. I consider it of even greater value than things like romance (which I consider to be of little value anyway, but I digress). So hang on to your friend.

And to everyone else -- this is exactly why I don't think CM was a waste, because of stories like hers. Whatever happens going forward, I don't want us to go away thinking it was all for nothing.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: FreakForGod on October 13, 2017, 01:52:46 PM
For the record, I also still like Wolf after meeting irl.

I donít really want to get into much detail (mostly because itís a lot to write and I just donít feel like sharing it all), but hereís a quick rundown I guess?

If you look at my art when I first started here you can see how much Iíve improved.. I worked on a comic for a while, but decided that it wasnít my path to follow. I still do art sometimes for fun, but Iíve chosen worship over art. (Though I may or may not have a secret project Iíve been working on and off on.) However, I donít feel that it was a waste in that aspect. If nothing else, at least now I know I donít want to do art as a career.

Mostly what I got out of CM was friendships. As I was also homeschooled, I grew up without many friends. When I joined, I did have some friends from my church, but not any deep connections. I never really had friends that I felt wanted to talk to me and were supportive. Through streams and personal messages, I felt like I met people that actually cared about me.

During my time away from CM (kinda anyway), I havenít really mentioned it on CM, but.. the ďschool of ministryĒ I was attending.. was awful. I really donít feel like talking about everything that I hated about it, but basically I was struggling to keep myself on fire for God, let alone.. you know.. alive. Luckily I got out of there, but I was there for a while.. and the only thing keeping me from completely giving up was some certain friends I met from here.

I havenít been active much here since, but basically, after that whole.. experience.. my flame had been pretty blown out. However, I wouldnít give up. In the past few months Iíve finally rekindled that flame. Ironically, I went to another ďschool of ministryĒ, but this one is much different. There I discovered my call to worship. I graduated from that, but now Iím a facilitator there for the time being. Iím planning to get a degree in music in worship.

So basically, without CM I wouldnít have improved my art,
Wouldnít have felt like I had real friends,
Might not even be alive,
Might not have pursued God as much as I need to,
And wouldnít have met the love of my life (well God works things out so I guess we probably would have met, but like.. it wouldíve been harder and stuff)

TD;DR
It wasnít a waste.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: redfur-akamaru on October 13, 2017, 03:23:21 PM
Aw, you guys beat me to it.

Basically ...ditto. While I agree there wasn't as much structured art interactions and spiritual support as one would like, there was still a TON of work and support being done here at CM.

I've been here pretty long and I've seen the community change and grow. Depending on the current members, sometimes it's been more serious and structured and sometimes it's been very loose and goofy. Yet all these times were used in a very, very powerful way by God. As you can see, I'm not the only one with a story.

I don't have a story so dramatic as some of our other amazing members here, but all the same, it's a very important story for me. I first came to CM as a super weeb not knowing the first thing about friends or how to art or being part of a community. The only "real life" friends I had turned out to be anything but, so I had become very tired of people in general. However, I wandered into CM and was met with GENUINE people. It was literally life-changing. CM and its members have shown me what community was like. Ink and the other "big time" artists supported my mega newbie art and encouraged me to grow. In doing so, I learned not only more about art but more about how to mentor and encourage others. Not only has CM shown me how to be part of a community, but the people I've met here have changed my life SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much. I cannot even express the impact.

Wolf, who as you now know, has become a huge part of my life. We introduce each other as "this is my sister, ___". It's been an honor to see her grow so much and to grow with her. She's an amazing support and a great friend.

Obviously, Forge has become a huge part of my life too. Through streams and random messages, we got to become friends online and be supportive of each other's comics during late night streams. Long story short, we had the opportunity to meet in real life on a few occasions and now we live pretty close because of my University. And also now we've been dating for over 2 years and it's grown me so much and I'm so glad for it.

Man, I so want to list everyone on CM here.... Hota, Danica, Alpha, Nazo, Rig, Kitsu, like.... SO MANY AMAZING PEOPLE. Everyone has taught me how to love, how to grow, and how to be part of God's family. CM is, and will forever be in my mind, my home. 

TL;DR:
CM, and the work Ink, Mel, Cal, and the CM community have put forth, has been used in amazingly powerful ways by God, even if not apparent from the chitchat seen on the surface. (And I know for sure these aren't the only stories) You all have literally changed lives.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Sparkle Foxie on October 13, 2017, 04:24:57 PM
I really don't have many words for this. It's left me a bit speechless. I feel like I could argue many points, but that would be selfish. So I'll keep those broken feelings to myself and properly express my gratitude.

CM as a whole has changed my life. And many times kept me from destroying it. I wouldn't be the same person if not for all of you. Especially Ink and Cal, but countless others also. My apologies for not mentioning more individually. So in the midst of this hard decision I hope you understand that you will forever have my unwavering friendship and support. And if any of you ever need anything, please come seek me out. The purpose that you sought to achieve through CM, in many ways, was done in my heart also. And I hope, my dearest CM admins, that you can look back on this time and the testimonies shared and know what a powerful and wonderful ministry you have done, and know that it was worth the sacrifices you had to make.

God truly makes all things beautiful in His time, and there is a time for everything. Thank you for the time that I was able and blessed to share here. It was always a delight.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: FaithWalkers on October 13, 2017, 04:32:07 PM
I haven't been active lately because ever since youtube has taken off, I have been extremely busy.
But man, am I gonna miss this place. So many of you guys are so loving and cool.
Every time I posted a prayer request here, I know the power of prayer helped a lot.
God really moved in this website. I respect your decision a lot.
I just wanted to pop in to tell you how much I appreciated this place and how amazing it is. :)
I have an idea if you'd like to hear about it. There's this amino app where you make a group and such.
Completely for free. Thinking, maybe, I can make a group on there? If any other members want to come help plan it...Can reach me on instagram @yenniefer or deviantart (Faithwalkers).
I'd love to stay connected with you all in some shape or form since this place is awesome and I do regret that I wish I was more active on here. I'm more active on apps, sadly.. ;w; God bless you all.
(And if I don't reply in time, I'll try reading responses on here when I can. If I don't respond fast enough if it's regarding the amino group app, message on the other social medias I've provided.)
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Theomedes on October 13, 2017, 09:43:26 PM
I was trying looking up Forge in the memberlist, and I couldn't find him ("Forge? Who's Forge?!") -- then I realized it was FreakForGod -- "Forge, The Melon Lord." That's like "Gwyn, Lord of Cinder." (You could be in Dark Souls.)

I don't have a big story about how CM saved my life -- just smaller stories I've been posting in the other thread, little things I liked about this place. If you want to know my story, though, or my story thus far...

I read and did all the things Christians kids are supposed to do in college, except I wasn't a ministry major. I studied humanities. Nevertheless, theology and church history were a big part of my studies (if not in my classes, then just on my own). It was fascinating, and besides, I was looking for answers. Not to fight with atheists, although I did sometimes. Mostly, I was curious for myself. I loved the things of God, even though I had a love-hate relationship with God (and still do).

After a senior year wracked with near-suicidal depression, things didn't work out for me. I just fell apart. I did things I wasn't proud of -- petty crime, substance abuse, loafing around at home. Stuff I haven't talked about. I'm over that in the sense of not doing those things anymore, but in a way, I'm still trying to recover from those nine months after college. It messed with me bad, and I'm still not the person I was before then. Even been scared to go back to church (though I've been a few times).

So what am I doing now? Basic employment. Building a body of work. Buying Bitcoin. And even though I'm largely past where I was nine months after college, I'm still not the person I should have been by now. So what does this have to do with CM? Not much -- except it was one of the few things I still enjoyed during that time, even if I wasn't all the way "here." I'm grateful for the friends. I'm glad we're connected via the Internet. I'm glad we don't have to "leave" each other once the forum shuts down. You people are awesome.

 :weepplz:
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Gabby on October 14, 2017, 11:50:43 AM
Man! I don't really know what to say. I know I haven't been active here in forever (even though I started off as one of the more active members).  I guess lately I've been busy with my full time job and have been working through trying to figure out what God means to me personally and his place in my life (long story, kind of had a falling out with church).  In the end though, I'm truly blessed to have been a part of CM.  After all it was where I met my husband, Josh (Krusader), and where I had my first Demon Battles fans.  I know I haven't been the most easy person to deal with, I've been moody at times and had a lot of self doubt, but I eventually learned to push past that self doubt and accept critique and to allow myself to improve (I was a stubborn one and set in my ways), all thanks to you guys. I don't think I would have improved without your support. And I'm sorry I wasn't more encourage and provided more critique as I should have. I guess I wasn't confident enough in my work to feel like I had any right to offer critique for the longest time.

Also, Red gave me my first drawing tablet, which has been an amazing blessing and has helped me improve in my artwork and to do so much more with my art than I was able to do with traditional medium.  Even though I went to school for traditional art, turn out I was a natural at digital medium.  Who knew!  I know I haven't worked on DB in a while, but that's because in the end I realized it needed a huge overhaul (that, and I don't have as much time for it with working 1:30pm-10:00pm, Tuesday-Saturday), but I'm working on a light novel series that would be easier to make time for since I type faster than I draw. It's a lot different than DB and I'm not sure how people are going to respond to it, but I felt like with it being a coming of age story set in a post apocalyptic world, it would be better for me to write as I'm going through this period of self discovery and figuring out where God fits in my life (after all it is about finding your place in the world and strength during the trying times, with some humor thrown in).  Hopefully if it takes off, I could quit my day job (more like night job, but you know what I mean). Once I'm making money solely off my works, I would definitely start producing Demon Battles. In the mean time, I have actually been developing the story and working on concept work. 

And also I discovered CM when I first started college. It was a difficult time for me and I had no friends since all my friends from high school moved on. I was extremely lonely, but I found friends and liked minded peeps on here.  You guys and this site had brought joy to my life in one of the darkest times in my life, and for that I am grateful.

I know this site hasn't quite done what it was meant to do, but it has done a lot of good for it's members on here. Thank you so much Ink, Cal, and Melmak!  I do understand your reasoning for closing the site, especially as someone who has drifted away over the years, but I just wanted to let you know your efforts weren't in vain.

Much love to you guys!  All of you!

Also, if you want to keep in touch, I'm still active on deviantart: gabby413.deviantart.com.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Diamond Fusion on October 14, 2017, 05:15:07 PM
Reading about all your stories is both touching and humbling guys! <3

While I don't have any story as amazing as Wolfie's or any of the others, I also agree that CM has been FAR from a waste in my life.

Sure, over half of the time I have spent here had been with goofing off and being silly (I was a real immature, 13 year old ditz when I first joined), and yeah, there may have been a lack of artistic support and help, but what really matters to me is that I was around wholesome people with similar interests as I had. All of my closest friends I met on CM. And without CM, I'm sure I would never have started writing even! Sure, I was drawing before, but I never really considered actually telling stories until I came here. My story-in-progress would never have came to be without me finding CM, and reading Ink's manga Game Plan.

Honestly, If I had never found CM, my exploration of the internet would probably have gone into a darker direction.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: lostinnarnia on October 16, 2017, 08:52:43 PM
Although I haven't been active the last few years, I would like to thank Ink, and all the friends I made here for all of the time I spent goofing off on here back in college. I made several friends here(some that I still keep tabs with) and that means a lot to me. It makes me sad to see the site being shut down, but I can understand why it's being done.

Thanks again for everything.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Cyberkyd on October 18, 2017, 07:10:59 PM
Thanks to Splinter for giving me the heads up on CM's closure. Ink, thank you for keeping this place going as long as you did. It would be a bit silly to say I'll miss the forums when I haven't been active for years at this point, but...

CM has been a part of my growing up, for better and for worse. Five years is a long time. Venting to you guys and hearing your concerned responses are what led me to realize how messed up my family is. Getting (deserved) mod backlash for political posting illuminated that we aren't all the same in Christiandom, and that was an important lesson.

I remember a good few of you fondly. If you're reading this, thank you so much for being one of the small points of warm light in an otherwise cold, dark, meaningless life. Ink, Splinter, Kitty, Cal, Foxie, Hotaru, MelMak, Kaze, Gabby, Wolfie, Sarah, Redfur. You may not even remember me much, but that's okay. I remember you, and I've prayed for all of you at some point. Thank you for being a part of my life, and for putting up with me at my worst.

Splinter and Micah are the only guys I even semi regularly keep up with, and that makes me sad. Feel free to email me at itaylorclogston@gmail.com, or to friend request me on Facebook as Taylor Clogston. If a CM Discord is being set up, I'd love to join in.

Unless I post again in response, this will be my final contribution to christianmanga.com. What a milestone. I guess I'll go out like I came in.

I'm Taylor, the crazy factory worker Evangelion fan! I've been really blessed to have met so many other believers who love manga ^_^ Sayonara, everyone!
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Theomedes on October 18, 2017, 09:01:57 PM
Cyber -- When I saw you were on, I was excited to see what you'd write. You're a well-read, talented dude, and I always enjoyed your input. (Strangely, I don't remember your political posting. I do remember skirting the edge myself, and I continue to skirt the edge in real life -- not in the sense of arguing, but in the sense of just not believing much anymore. I don't believe in this thing called democracy. I don't believe in this crass Leviathan mega-state. I believe in Jesus, and that's about it.)

Know that I intend to keep up with you. I don't want to lose track of CM's best writer.

EDIT: And Cyber -- "Mankind's greatest fear is Mankind itself."
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: cometarrows on October 19, 2017, 11:27:20 AM
AWWW... Thanks for all your hard work on this site, Ink! I really enjoyed being on CM the short time I was here. Hope to see you wonderful people on other places on the Net. :D God bless you all!!!
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Gabby on October 19, 2017, 11:43:27 AM
I remember you Cyberkyd! : D
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: simplelovemelody07 on October 19, 2017, 12:04:47 PM
Hey, Silo here.  :sayhiplz:

I won't really write that much because others have written a lot about the positive ways CM has changed their life. I will write this though: For once, I finally felt at home with others who enjoy anime and manga, because they also loved Christ. Also, in the most painful time of my life (literally painful -- two surgeries gone wrong), you guys prayed for me and befriended me. Some of you drew things for me and allowed me to color your OCs, which I really enjoy. Thank you!  :blushplz:

Probably the best thing though is that due to all of the health problems, I was not doing well in my first grad program and I was facing being kicked out and unable to return for seven years. Naturally, I was devastated! But through a CMer (Red, of course!) and some other miracles, I was given a second opportunity at probably the best school I have ever attended in my life, with under a degree program that I never knew I always wanted. And I graduate soon (next semester, or the one after that)!  :secretplz:

So thank you everyone responsible for CM and. Really, thank you!

I know there's the other forum being made, but if you guys want to talk outside of that, I'm also on Discord and LINE, as well as other places. Please PM me if you want to share contact information.  :chocoloveplz:
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Cyberkyd on October 19, 2017, 05:48:33 PM
EDIT: And Cyber -- "Mankind's greatest fear is Mankind itself."

Even more so now than when I was an edgy seventeen-year-old does that seem apt :-\ I'm glad we've kept in touch, even as sporadic and one sided on your end as it's been. Here's to hoping I can be more responsible with it in the future.

I remember you Cyberkyd! : D

That makes me happy, Gabby :-} Nice to see you again.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: N92 on October 19, 2017, 06:46:15 PM
Phoenix here.

Yeah. Long time no visit. Too long. I stopped doing forums way back when.

Wolfie and Splinter delivered the news to me. Sometimes it seems like all good things come to an end. But in the end, this place belongs to Ink.

I remember when I joined. It was June 2010 and I'd just finished reading Game Plan. I loved what I read and I just had to meet the people behind that story. I ended up meeting some fine folks here, one of which ended up becoming my best friend. And then life happened.

Since then, I've stayed in touch with some of these people. Lots of life has happened over the years and things back then are like a dream in a parallel universe. Sometimes they don't seem real.

Anyway, I hope to keep in touch with people. A lotta people nowadays are keeping up on Discord and Slack. I use Discord for personal communication and Slack for business. PM me if you wanna keep in touch on Discord.

It's been great, everyone. Here's to fresh new beginnings.

Cheers,
-The Phoenix
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: redfur-akamaru on October 19, 2017, 07:27:12 PM
;w; hearing everyone's stories is so great. Truly God is good and works in amazing ways.  (Also, of course, I remember you Cyber!)
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Theomedes on October 19, 2017, 07:33:54 PM
Phoenix -- Glad you dropped in. I'll be on Discord before long. In the meantime, we'll keep up on Steam (and I'll send you my current email, in case you need it).

You know, I've never met any of you people. Maybe we'll change that in the next year or so.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: N92 on October 19, 2017, 11:11:06 PM
;w; hearing everyone's stories is so great. Truly God is good and works in amazing ways.  (Also, of course, I remember you Cyber!)

Hello person. It's strange to think we met in person briefly. For about two minutes. We're still friends on Steam. Bueno. Awesome. Happy birthday.

Phoenix -- Glad you dropped in. I'll be on Discord before long. In the meantime, we'll keep up on Steam (and I'll send you my current email, in case you need it).

You know, I've never met any of you people. Maybe we'll change that in the next year or so.

Dude, I did NOT recognize you with that name. Then I read your signature thing that's underneath your avatar. Then I recognized my fellow drone slayer.
 
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Theomedes on October 20, 2017, 01:28:47 AM
Dude, I did NOT recognize you with that name. Then I read your signature thing that's underneath your avatar. Then I recognized my fellow drone slayer.

(http://pop.h-cdn.co/assets/17/26/640x320/landscape-1498749667-jun-29-2017-11-18-35.gif)
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Diamond Fusion on October 20, 2017, 09:35:13 AM
Oh my goodness, Phoenix! I haven't seen you in years! (It's so strange to say that) I don't know if you remember me, but I used to be DiamondDragon.

Anyways, It's great to hear from you again, and I hope you're doing well!
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: NikitaRose on October 21, 2017, 02:20:03 AM
College has devoured my life, it's been a little while. I poked in out of curiosity and saw this place was shutting down. It's sad yes, but I understand the decision to do so. All things come to an end sometime, don't they?

I found CM 5 years ago, I haven't been here nearly as long as some of yall, but dang, that's a little less than a 1/4 of my life. It's been a weird ride. I have very happy, good memories of this place and it's people, and some pretty bad ones too. But we're people, that's life, and those are experiences that are inseparable from our existence. And as a whole, looking back on these years, the people I met and times I had, I look upon that time fondly. For a long while, this was home.

The past five years have also been the most difficult, painful times in my life. Growing up with a psychologically abusive father, my parent's divorce, living with my grandmother, struggling with depression, not knowing what kind of a future me or my mother and brother had, just... trying to get over the brokenness our life had become.
Art saved me. Stories saved me.
During all this time, I delved deeper and deeper into art and creating. In the darkness, I could create light and hope and goodness. I could make things that made me happy. And in a way, CM helped encourage me to keep going, the validation in what I was doing made me want to make more, and I wanted to share the things that made me happy. People wanted to see my art and they liked the things I made.

And we're healing, we're getting better. Things are still hard, but life is hard. My younger brother has an incredible job in his degree field, I'm at my dream college pursuing my dream career, and God gives, and I'm happy. I am so happy. I'm bubbling with passion for what I'm doing, I fought to get here and it means so much to stand here now.
CM was a part of my journey, a treasured piece of who I am.

So I dunno, I'm Brittany Hathcoat, add me on facebook if ya want (tell me who you are tho or I'll be scared and not add you ;~; )
I have instagram, discord, ... email? I moved to WA if any yall in the Seattle area wanna get coffee sometime. I always welcome the company of my Christian siblings, it's a breath of fresh air in a very secular college and industry.

God bless all of yall and may He keep you and guide you.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: yorokobigirl123 on October 24, 2017, 03:44:21 AM
Phoenix -- Glad you dropped in. I'll be on Discord before long. In the meantime, we'll keep up on Steam (and I'll send you my current email, in case you need it).

You know, I've never met any of you people. Maybe we'll change that in the next year or so.

I'd definitely love to get to know you more dude, as well as others on here i never really talked to much before!
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: uomonii on October 24, 2017, 01:51:15 PM
Hey everyone ~

Not sure if all of you remember me / know me, Iím pretty sure you all do, but I left cm awhile back due to certain reasons. Iím know as uomonii, but a long time ago my username was SilverRaven. I just wanted to come back and write some stuff, thanking cm for the difference and important role it played in my life.

Many years ago, I made an account on here. I didnít really use it much until a long time after creating an account, and I began to become more active in the forums as God placed trials in my life for me to learn from. As I was growing up and experiencing new things in my life, my family moved and that was hard for me. I began to think about things which Iíd not thought of before, things about what my purpose was, if I really mattered, and I struggled with making relationships and speaking to people in general.

I came to cm for help and prayer for my problems. There were always people here giving encouragement and helping out, praying and showing verses from the bible which provided hope and answers for me. Along with those personal life struggles I got help with, people on cm helped me with my artwork. They gave encouraging words and we were all be able to watch as I became more experienced as an artist. I probably wouldnít be drawing much today if it werenít for cm.

There was an extremely dark time in my life when I was doubting my own purpose, struggling with the idea of me actually mattering, and why I should even look forward to an eternal paradise God has provided to me through His Son. I didnít see why I would want to go to heaven and praise God for eternity, without ever feeling anything but joy. I didnít want that. I felt that without despair and sadness, you couldnít really experience joy, and joy would be worth nothing without sorrow. Why would I want to just sit around praising God forever?

While in this state, I reached out, again, to cm. Redfur, callie, helped me out a lot in this situation, along with someone else I canít currently remember the username of. They gave me answers and helped me through that, and to this day Iíve never been in as dark of a time as when that happened. They helped me realize doubting and asking ďwhat ifĒ doesnít get you anywhere, since thereís nothing to back this skepticism I had with. Asking the things I was asking and thinking the way I was was illogical, and I learned that in the state I was, I simply wasnít thinking straight. I was able to get out of that state of doubt and questioning, and remember that we all have Godís word, the bible, available to us for answers.

I learned also that heaven and a relationship with God is something outside of our comprehension. The magnitude of joy and love that we will have when we are with God will be unfathomable. Even today I sometimes doubt why I would want to go to heaven, I still donít feel as if itís something I look forward to, but I always look back on that advice I had received through the people who helped me on cm. I canít possibly get even close to imagining what our relationship with out heavenly Father and Savior will be like.

So yeah. Please know, Ink and all you other wonderful people that have kept this forum running for such a long time, that this forum HAS MADE SUCH A DIFFERENCE. I have watched as God worked through you and through this forum to literally save lives. Please know that this forum was in no way a mistake, and that God has used this forum to make an eternal difference on peopleís lives.

And yeah. Thanks for everything ~
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: yorokobigirl123 on October 25, 2017, 03:19:25 AM
Hey, by the way, if anyone wants to stay in touch by email, my email is jess.m.kelly2012@gmail.com.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Theomedes on October 25, 2017, 03:57:40 AM
Amazing how we're all putting ourselves out here this month, handing out contact info, revealing things about ourselves we wouldn't normally reveal. I guess 'cause it's personal, and I guess 'cause it won't matter before long anyway. But it's amazing -- it really is. It shows how much we care about each other, and how badly we want to stay in touch.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: yorokobigirl123 on October 25, 2017, 04:04:38 AM
yeah definitely XD
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: glow on October 27, 2017, 07:16:09 PM
WOW - good thing I noticed this in the last few days here. Yeah, so I ain't been around much lately, but if you remember me, you'll remember me from:

2010/11 Teamwork Challenge organizer (I also made the teamwork challenge badges - cool that people still use them!) :D
2016/17 Making (more like starting) a video game: Grim Dragons (currently out on Steam)

My CM Story: I love Jesus and this community's always been dear to me. It was awesome to find like minded people and make team projects with you guys in the past. CM really helped me through some depressing times in life when I didn't really have like minded Christian friends I could share my artistic side with. So, thanks for all the awesome times CM! :D

My contact info: abardandev@gmail.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/adrian.bardan (https://www.facebook.com/adrian.bardan)

If you remember me and want to get in touch, please do. If you don't remember me and want to get in touch, do that too.

I can totally give you and friends a free copy of my Steam PC game to CM members, cause everyone's awesome here!
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: N92 on October 28, 2017, 11:02:25 PM
Oh carp. November 1st is almost here and I forgot about this place again (T_T).

Yeah, everyone write down names and contact information quick. I recognize some people and not others.

Oh my goodness, Phoenix! I haven't seen you in years! (It's so strange to say that) I don't know if you remember me, but I used to be DiamondDragon.

Anyways, It's great to hear from you again, and I hope you're doing well!

Hey Dia! No glomping please. : P

God bless all of yall and may He keep you and guide you.

Definitely not a Seattle local using Yall like that. : P
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: inkhana on October 29, 2017, 12:49:37 AM
CM closing is POSTPONED (no new date set).  After this I just can't do this right now (http://christianmanga.com/smf/index.php/topic,4444.msg299741.html#msg299741).

Title: Re: CM Closing (POSTPONED)
Post by: Theomedes on October 29, 2017, 01:58:55 AM
Maybe Christmas will be a good time. Or New Year, 1 January 2018. That'll give us more time to connect with each other off-site, and if anyone needs to talk to anyone (about anything), we'll stick around to the end of the year. That's two whole months.

But whenever you're ready, you do what you have to do. My connections are all set, and for now, there's no danger of losing track of anyone.
Title: Re: CM Closing Nov 1
Post by: Lizzie Grace the Geek on October 29, 2017, 12:06:46 PM
Whenever you're ready, you do what you have to do. My connections are all set, and for now, there's no danger of losing track of anyone.
Same here, Ink. :) 
Title: Re: CM Closing (POSTPONED)
Post by: rigningardagur on October 30, 2017, 01:56:53 PM
hey everyone. i wanted to put out my info incase you wanna find me elsewhere after cm is down. ;v;b

https://rigningardagur.tumblr.com/ (https://rigningardagur.tumblr.com/)

https://www.instagram.com/rig.ning/ (https://www.instagram.com/rig.ning/)

i'm also on discord and check it somewhat regularly. i'm part of kika's group "secret hide away," so you can find me in the members list there currently. my name on discord is rig.ning#2851

at this point i'm not planning on joining the new forum by cherry and red, anime christians, simply because i've found myself become gradually less interested in manga and anime. i'm not really... an avid fan anymore if you know what i mean. ;u;

so yeah. that's where you can find me ~

Title: Re: CM Closing (POSTPONED)
Post by: iHasPianoKeys on October 31, 2017, 04:04:29 PM
I....frankly have avoided making this post for a very long time. I first joined CM all the way back in June of 2014. I was only fourteen years old at the time, and since then, I have been heavily affected by the things I have learned and found on this site.

And while I know a lot of you probably don't know me, as I tend to disappear for long periods of time, (a habit with online forums I am trying to break '^^) it really shocked and saddened me to see that this site was going down.

CM helped me so much with my struggles with depression when I first started. At the time, I was kind of going through a point in history where I was struggling to figure out who I was, who I wanted to be, and most importantly, who God wanted me to be. I didn't have the greatest self-image, and still struggle with that, but in essence, I really thought of myself as a weirdo back in the day.

Now, I've matured a lot since then, and through life-changing memories, good and bad, I've changed both spiritually and mentally. I don't think of myself as being "too weird" or "too different" for anyone to love, and I truly place a lot of that on my friends and contacts here on CM. Without you guys, I'd probably still be sitting here, wondering why I liked this weird Japanese art form, and hiding the fact that I like it from my family and friends.

I know that may seem a little silly, I do mean it. For a long time, I really thought that I was just too weird to have friends. However, I quickly learned that there were other people out there like me, and while they may not live nearby, there was nothing wrong with having different tastes, talents and artistic styles than everyone else.

I also learned how to use my gifts to shine a light in a world of darkness. Before coming to this site, I had never even thought of using my talents to convey Christian messages outside of a direct depiction of Biblical events. I saw how the people here shared the truth through what they made, and I slowly learned how to put solid, Christian messages into my writing and into my work.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm going to miss you guys. Whether it was for prayer, advice, or just simply for cheering me up when life gets hard, you guys are always there. I never have to feel "weird" or "out of place" on here, which is something to be said in a world that hates our ideas and beliefs.

I just wanted to let you all know that CM has greatly impacted my life, and I really hope I get to stay in contact with all of you in the future.

For those interested, my Discord is ProtectTheAlphaWolf#7852

While I don't check it often, I do have it, so yeah. As far as any other social media accounts, you can find me at ProtectTheAlphaWolf on pretty much everything I have a username for, lol.

But yeah, I guess this is goodbye, soon....I'll really miss you all, and God bless as He directs you through the pathway of life.

(I'm almost crying now, great job. XP XDDD)
Title: Re: CM Closing (POSTPONED)
Post by: power of the pen on October 31, 2017, 06:13:39 PM
If anyone wants to keep in contact with me and see more frequent updates on my current projects you can check out my instagram beloved_artist or email me at animeartist586@gmail.com itís really been a journey with all you guys and I pray for you guys that you would keep following God into the good plans he has for you!
Title: Re: CM Closing (POSTPONED)
Post by: Supersword on October 31, 2017, 09:16:01 PM
Hey everyone,

This is Supersword. I know I haven't been around much lately, but I just went online a few weeks ago and noticed the announcement. I'm so sad that the site is closing, but I completely understand that things change and have to be let go. This is the place where I was able to vent about all my experiences (especially at my Camp internship).

I remember first looking for sites like this and found this one (a place with friendly people and great art). When I read Inkhana's manga (Game Plan), I felt that this was the first time that I knew people were out there who loved manga and loved the Lord with such an amazing passion. This Manga is super special to me and touched my heart in such a personal way. I was so happy to come on here and know that even if people in my family didn't understand the anime/manga craze, people on here did and I could just geek out and have fun. Kind of like a secret club. =)

Like I said, it's sad to see this go, but I understand (I'm about to graduate from college and am going through a big transition). If anyone wants to remain in contact with me, my email is quinnece.walker3@gmail.com. And I hope to keep everyone in my prayers here.
Title: Re: CM Closing (POSTPONED)
Post by: Theomedes on November 01, 2017, 10:15:29 AM
Went through my old PMs today. Printed a few, then deleted everything. Yep, my business here is concluded. Now I'm just sticking around for fun.
Title: Re: CM Closing (POSTPONED)
Post by: RossAnime on November 01, 2017, 04:26:38 PM
Welp, nothing long or sappy, but just a thank you to Ink, Mel, and CalĖ to CM. This place has played crucial parts in my growing up. I have been pretty much a dead member the past couple years but back in my early days this place felt like a cyber home. Certain conversations i had on here altered the direction of my life, and I don't think I'd be who I am today without good ol Christian manga.com. :) My only regret is not being more involved and for not developing deeper relationships here. Thanks all  :baibaiplz:
I'll stick around for the remainder of existence as we know it XD

EDIT:
Found this place from reading The Truth Chronicles. I believe I've mentioned that before, but wanted to give those books another shout out :)
Title: Re: CM Closing (POSTPONED)
Post by: Lizzie Grace the Geek on November 11, 2017, 03:04:02 PM
EDIT:
Found this place from reading The Truth Chronicles. I believe I've mentioned that before, but wanted to give those books another shout out :)
Hey, me too! :D